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An appeal for your support
A very strange time is upon us…

Very recently, TATA Sons filed a case against us ( in infringement of their TATA name (as our domain name contains the 'TATA' word!). Tata Sons has contended that it is confusingly similar to its 'Tata' brand and the travel portal runner has no rights or legitimate interests to use it. The company had argued that the site infringed the right of its registered trademark/service mark 'Tata'.

And in a decision by a sole panelist, ownership of the domain has been awarded to TATA by WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) Arbitration and Mediation Centre.

Needless to say we’re alarmed by such claims on our domain name. The domain name is importantly a representative of the colloquial “OK Ta Ta Bye Bye”, which represents travel, journey and related activities, referring to the generic word “Ta Ta”.
We all regularly use the terms for travel & goodbyes in our country and across many others.

Would you say it is bizarre, that a word, in as generic use as, 'Ta Ta' used in our domain name, could infringe anyone's copyright and cause confusion? Or that, the way it has been or is, in anyway by bad intention, or otherwise, causes confusion with TATA sons?

As you well know your traveller network on is a legitimate business as a travel community. Please help preserve rights of the domain name that has today built into a credible and useful property with support & contributions from thousands of travel lovers like yourself.

We will appeal in the Delhi High Courts within the next ten days.

Please do write your opinion on the matter so that things can be set right.

Thank you, we will keep you updated with the progress.

Request you to forward this by email to friends so that we can gather more support. Your actions will help the cause immensely.
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Raj on 25 Sep 2013 at 19:18
Well in such case a person having motors.Com should sue tatamotors ha ha
Raj on 25 Sep 2013 at 19:13
I think domain has got nothing to do with the business registration. If it was so then domain names should not be allotted to a person who doesnt own that company name. Secondly tata himself running his tata capital site on www.Tatatravels.In . They have mentioned just one link for their travel business rest all website is for tata capital...These things should also be questioned.
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Sanjay Chikhalikar on 28 Sep 2010 at 20:55
It is really shocking that tata sons are objecting to this. Its really pity that tata sons are going to court for such needless issue.
Aditya Bhatt on 17 Sep 2010 at 19:53
Wow! this is so retarded that its sad. But its really funny too. :d
Vishal on 08 Aug 2010 at 17:25
I totally support & love the name oktatabyebye.Com & i do not think at all that it has any relation to tata sons. i respect tata brand but this action by tata sons has disappointed me. am not sure if the hindi word ta ta is older or the tata brand. almost every brand is based on some dictionary word (eg: reliance), so it doesnt mean that everybosy should stop using the dictionary words in public. if thats the case, the corporates should not be allowed to use a common language word or any dictionary word to use it as their brand name. this is absolutely bizarre.
Sujatha on 22 Jul 2010 at 12:50
I don't see any confusion. I don't visit oktatabyebye.Com for anything related to what tatasons do or intend to do. this is a case of reverse domain hijacking.
Krishnan T S on 20 Jul 2010 at 18:17
I like your concept, i would like to use your road map & there plan for my india tour what ever other people say do not very thanks
Ramachandran on 19 Jul 2010 at 15:49
I strongly supports to oktatabyebye.Com...May be tata family can get a better name in case they do want to start a travel business it looks like a immature and silly way to abducting someone else’s hard work.
Shalini on 15 Jul 2010 at 18:42
Unlike what most of you think, the decision against this site was passed by an indian, a so-called "cyber lawyer"!!
Serkhang on 11 Jul 2010 at 18:14
How about switching to okmoronbyebye? everybody will understand who's meant with "moron"!
R D Mathur on 25 Jun 2010 at 09:44
Please re-consider this. It takes a long time for a brand name to build up. Thanks
Zarir on 28 May 2010 at 22:11
In my opinion tata will remain tata no matter whoever tries to steal or copt their id. Tata's should not pry into these silly & petty matters
Aman on 19 May 2010 at 01:29
Me supports u.
Aman on 19 May 2010 at 01:29
Me supports u.
Vishnu Shastri on 19 Apr 2010 at 16:45
So will everyone be charged for saying 'ta ta' when saying goodbye to friends? and will all trucks in india be fined for writing 'ok tata byebye' on their rear bumpers? is tata so insecure? i understand copyright and trademark issues, and there is an element of common sense and usage that must be taken into account in such cases. i respect the tatas and am sure that they will see reason.
Rajnie on 05 Apr 2010 at 18:29
Ridiculous claim by tata..
Abhi on 11 Mar 2010 at 15:59
Well it really sounds very interesting. m sure everything works out find in ur side.
Arvind on 27 Feb 2010 at 02:32
Haha, silly english speakers at wipo... No respect for internationalization...
Muhammed Shuraif on 25 Feb 2010 at 13:40
Well.... No confusion at all.... reading this post only made me think of tata sons..
Arslan on 24 Feb 2010 at 12:40
This is crazy :s. tata and ta ta bye bye is completely different haha.
Robin on 21 Feb 2010 at 11:22
With you guys!
Robin on 21 Feb 2010 at 11:22
With you guys!
Rohit Yadava on 16 Feb 2010 at 14:41
I think tata sons wants to cash in from the popularity of oktatabyebye.Com by creating a controversy! very immature of them. Suggest them... They should also sue all the truck owners in india for having this phrase on the tailboards of their trucks -- "ok tata, horn please", for having the word tata in between!! my vote goes to oktatabyebye.Com
Ray on 26 Jan 2010 at 16:08
Clearly tata sons suffer from dyslexia badly. maybe they should use the money to give their employees a better rate of pay instead of lining their fat.
Sandip Lade on 24 Jan 2010 at 10:27
Tata empire is a very big empire and i am regular user of tata products. However tata should not indulge any which ways with oktatabyebye .Com as both are seperate entities and my vote is with oktatabyebye.Com.
Arundhyoti on 14 Jan 2010 at 11:45
Really funny...Tatas should invest their quality time in something more productive
Bhanu Pratap Singh on 11 Jan 2010 at 16:23
I don't knw why wipo is supporting tata. As its clearly written in the trademarks laws of the countrie that a part of a mark cannot infringe the trademark...Section 17...Tatas get a life.....
Arnold on 03 Jan 2010 at 02:18
Screw tata, greedy bastards! i'll never buy their product anmore! i hate all t.A.T.A . Hopefully, they will collapse with jaguar and landrover!
Arnold on 03 Jan 2010 at 02:18
Screw tata, greedy bastards! i'll never buy their product anmore! i hate all t.A.T.A . Hopefully, they will collapse with jaguar and landrover!
Asha Kumari on 25 Dec 2009 at 13:00
My vote with oktatabye.Com
Akshay on 22 Dec 2009 at 10:58
Strange im sure tata team is taking its name to seriously. Mnc influence perhaps. Now we can't say tata to anyone?
Rachna Nambiar on 21 Dec 2009 at 17:45
This is clearly quite ridiculous and indeed, bizarre.
Ridhan on 18 Dec 2009 at 23:31
I guess my younger siblings would have to stop reading tinkle since tata sons would sue tinkle comics for use of the word tata agazillion times in various comic strips. the tata group is wasting their time on hopeless acusations and infiringing their own reputation. We expect more professionalism from such an esteemed name.
Karson on 18 Dec 2009 at 19:48
Omg!! everyone knows that 'ok ta ta byebye" has been a part of our everyday dialect since ages, i'm sure the phrase started even before "tata sons" was established. There's no way they can claim ownership. must be losing their mind!!!
Prashant Singh on 09 Dec 2009 at 17:01
This is really funny i think tata should invest time in appointing their next heir
Pavan on 05 Dec 2009 at 09:02
Any updates on this? its been long since tata sons won the case and the site is still up. I would really hope tata sons rethinks on this and gives up rights to this site.
Yasharth Mehrotra on 26 Nov 2009 at 16:00
This is a no brainer.What the hell is up with them??? and i m an employee of tata.
Praveen Selvam on 25 Nov 2009 at 23:55
Tata, this is stupidity. Invest your time better!
Udayakiran on 25 Nov 2009 at 23:47
Quite amazing. One would think tata group would have better things to do.
Danny on 22 Nov 2009 at 15:34
"ta ta" . Whats the sense of this case !
Ritika Kar on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:35
This issue is really bizarre. In fact its quite silly coming from a company like tata sons.
Hemant on 17 Nov 2009 at 14:45
Mean tatas
Kamalmurthy on 05 Nov 2009 at 20:50
It is really surprising to note that tatas are behaving so mean minded.They cannot have ownership of a generic term. Home they realise their mistake.
Amit Verma on 31 Oct 2009 at 11:37
I am surprised by this, will india stop saying ta ta anymore just because tata sons owns the rights!!!!!!!!
Naresh on 21 Oct 2009 at 12:17
So watz finally happening with this case?
Nilabha Jha on 20 Oct 2009 at 13:53
What next ? they will ban us from saying 'ta ta' to our children before we leave for office ??
Pj Carter on 15 Oct 2009 at 05:11
As such it does not represent a familial name but english slang for goodbye. I don't know about in india, but since so many people were raised speaking english in india, who knows.
Nitish on 14 Oct 2009 at 10:04
Never imagined the tatas could be this stupid...Get a life, oldies, and now dont sue walt disney for naming the movie "remember the titans"
Rjay on 07 Oct 2009 at 01:28
Every body knows this ta ta is used to bye so oktatabyebye is a not a tata brand
Veena on 06 Oct 2009 at 20:06
It is a generic term used by many people
Arvind on 06 Oct 2009 at 17:57
Its a non-sense... Ok ta ta bye bye is what v generally use to bid adieu to our nears n dears...
Piyush on 06 Oct 2009 at 10:56
Not just tata, but any word that is commonly used should not become the private property of a single maverick - human, group or corporate, especially when there is no obvious intention to misuse. I fully support this cause! let tata change their company name or sir name if they have an issue.
Sunil on 06 Oct 2009 at 10:11
Ratan tata & co./sons have gone completely mad! they are just out of their damn minds. I use the word ta-ta very often daily. Don't tell me those fools will ask me to pay royalty some day!
Senthil Nathan on 06 Oct 2009 at 10:07
Another greedy enterprise who claims ownership on common word
Praneshvittal on 06 Oct 2009 at 09:42
How ridiculous ??? for god's sake, tatas don't own the word ta ta
Saurabh Bhatia on 05 Oct 2009 at 18:13
Comeon man ! who in the world will think, we are wishing tatas bye bye , if they are they are wrong. Tata dudes, chillout, people do have a right to wish each other.
Ashfaq Parkar on 04 Oct 2009 at 18:59
What would tata do if a person has surname as tata will they claim that he is also infringing their rights. How stupid....
Saps on 04 Oct 2009 at 13:31
I suggest that okttbb sue tata for trying to exercise ownership over a generic word.
Matthew Stanbro on 29 Sep 2009 at 01:04
This kind of absurdity has got to stop. If a word appears in the dictionary, or is considered a common expression it cannot be legitimately trademarked. What's next? someone will trademark the word cool? or hello?
John on 26 Sep 2009 at 10:11
I dont think tata sons wold argue for oktatabyebye.Com because they are sensible people, if they did then they are idiots.
Khushi on 25 Sep 2009 at 22:46
I think this will help oktatabyebye's cause. http://www.Flyyoufools.Com/tata-vs-oktatabyebye
Samir Seal on 25 Sep 2009 at 20:09
I was on long tour 2day only i have seen the mail by the way as per my knowledge concern untill you dont copy or do the same business or any related support u used ther is nothing wrong by same name and u r using a completely seperate identity in that case u can also sue tatasons for defayming you u r rewquested to go through the details of property rights manual if u r facing any problem for getting the same u can inform me so that i can try to do the search. Thanking you
Mahadevan on 25 Sep 2009 at 14:56
This is hilarious. Jaago re jaago re tata
Kumar on 23 Sep 2009 at 18:39
This domain has to be transfered to tatas asap...
Yaswanth on 22 Sep 2009 at 21:43
Crazy jobless people..... Perhaps next they will register nano and file a lawsuit against nanotechnology products too...
Stanley on 22 Sep 2009 at 18:44
This is ridiculous! the tata brand (which i up till now always thought of as a mature) cannot be confused with this portal. ta ta is a generic word referring to bye bye...A message to ratan tata: mr tata: rather than spending precious money on pursuing this unnecessary case, please forward that amount to me. i can make better use of it. thanks!
Juju on 22 Sep 2009 at 16:43
Seems like only tata sons can say tata to their wifes !!... Never leave 'em... Ms shd file a case on 'em for using d name vista (tata indica vista)... Idiotic !! get as much as -ve publicity & grow well !! my best wishes !! ok ta ta bye bye ;)
Haresh on 22 Sep 2009 at 15:48
It seems some zealous executive might have put up this claim. You may contact the executive director or chairman of tata sons and get this matter sorted out. haresh trivedi
Sanjay Gupta on 22 Sep 2009 at 08:10
tata is wrong they should file case against every india who wishes good bye to friends and relatives. Dont worry our indian jurisdiction is power ful and will not allow to dictate terms by tata
Bharat Trivedi on 22 Sep 2009 at 03:47
I think seniors of tata don't have any work to do in this recession time.
Ld Sharma on 22 Sep 2009 at 02:10
This is one of the worst things in the history of domains. I am an internet marketer and a domaineer for over a decade now and it is very strange if oktatabyebye is related to tata sons. it is their power of money that they can take it from makemytrip. this should be sent to icann / wipo arbitration by mmt. there are thousands of domains with 'tata' word in between and it does not mean that tata sons can take them from all. Look at the meaning of 'tata' at - http://dictionary.Reference.Com/browse/tata?qsrc=2446 - and it definitely relates to travel and saying someone bye bye. millions of travellers love this oktatabyebye and if it goes to tata sons, it is a cheating with all those people who feel that the word 'tata' is more popularised to travel then tata sons.... Jagoo india jagoo....
Vishnu on 21 Sep 2009 at 21:13
What the f*** does tata think of itself ??? huh ... ok tata bye bye in no way concerns tata, all it does is reminds me of my home. This is crazy man , god give some brains to theses tata sons !1!
Utpal on 21 Sep 2009 at 16:42
Oktatabyebye does mean the co tata sons
Gopal on 21 Sep 2009 at 11:56
Oktatabyebye in no way concerns tata as ta ta is the word used by everybody when they go out. Its not a name that they have used in their domain, they have used a verb (tata denotes an action, the hand wave). The wipo judgement is wrong. this seems to be how tata functions, they try to browbeat smaller companies. In fact, they tried the same thing with us. We own the domain name jingalala dotcom and they sent us a letter asking us to transfer it in 7 days. We wrote back to their lawyers that they cannot do this (a point to point rebuttal) as they do not own word jingalala though they use the word in their ads. Jingalala has been in existence long before tata started using it in their ads. Now, we are still the proud owners of jingalala dotcom as their lawyers understood that they cannot browbeat everybody :) so, our sympathies are with mr kalra, and we hope he wins the case.
Ankit on 20 Sep 2009 at 11:07
Frivolous claims !!
Dijo on 20 Sep 2009 at 09:46
Hema Ramaprasad on 19 Sep 2009 at 23:36
On the contrary, as a kid, i always thought tata buses (used by bangalore transport corporation back then) were being friendly in saying ta-ta to passengers. :) it's a ridiculous claim... Hope you guys tide over this one.
Mneo on 19 Sep 2009 at 16:47
Its tata sons right, so stop using the word "sons" as well. insane you can buy a word from the dictionary and only u can use that word.
Bijender Rohilla on 18 Sep 2009 at 22:56
I do not think they should do this.
Nayagam Kannan E on 18 Sep 2009 at 20:33
Oktatabyebye is a general term when somebody tell to their dear ones when gone out for a tour
Varun on 18 Sep 2009 at 15:16
Bunch of jobless dickheads tryin to earn a coin. what a shame tata...
Anon on 18 Sep 2009 at 14:31
Indeed ridiculous!full support for your site in this case.
Krishna on 17 Sep 2009 at 17:04
This is truly bizarre.... How come tata's want a ipo on a gesture and on a word used in english language??? and, how was this domain infringing tata's business interests? tata and ta ta are among the most common words known to an indian and no one in this country would have any confusion about what is what.
Albert on 17 Sep 2009 at 11:14
Guys, its nice to say ta ta is a generic greeting. But please let's not forget, ok tata has been used since 50 years on truck backs across india, and the tata referred to the tata trucks. so while its a cleaver construct, the tata inspiration comes fm the brand, moreso since its in the travel / truck space. think of another name...
Naren on 16 Sep 2009 at 19:08
This is ridiculos that tatas are indulging in such a cheap game. To a company that has noble stature , why are they getting into such petty things. no monopoly sirs.
Amit Karpe on 16 Sep 2009 at 15:24
Tata are brand name and no one can confuse them with oktatabyebye.Com, this is very strange for me that gaints like tata are hyping this issue. tata's should not indulge in such matters under copyrights issue.
Pavan Sastry on 16 Sep 2009 at 11:11
This allegation of infringement is really disgusting. Ta ta as pointed out is a common farewell greeting. Also, the name tata itself is not the sole property of tata sons. There are sites like http://tatacubancafe.Com/ which is for a cafe which has been running from years ago.
Ashish on 15 Sep 2009 at 18:27
Tata's are just being too sensitive to the whole episode; these are two different names and should not be confused
Bj on 15 Sep 2009 at 15:54
Hopefully the delhi high court will do the justice here. The tata's should understand that "ok ta ta bye bye" is a generic phrase.
Reddy N on 15 Sep 2009 at 13:08
You already own domain name okbyebye.Com. Why don't use this name? when anyone is starting a new company, they need to find out about all these issues. It looks like you were not knowledgeable enough to think all these!
Anuj Sharma on 15 Sep 2009 at 12:30
Ever since our childhood we are used to saying ok tata bye bye , when we go somewhere or travel. We heard of the tata company much later . Thus tata, bye bye have very generic meanings related to farewell and travel, and in no way can these words be 'assumed' by a company or family having similar surname. We hope judges can see reason and be fair to young, creative companies which are trying to build values and bonding with customers by relating to the cultural nuances of day-to-day living in india.
Prasad Chawak on 15 Sep 2009 at 11:18
There are many words which have 'tata' in them. Searching for tata from search engines dont show 'oktatabyebye' site. Which means that the difference between "tata" and "ta ta" as in bye bye is already made.
Sumedha on 15 Sep 2009 at 08:47
The decision of the court appears to make no sense.
Bhautik Joshi on 15 Sep 2009 at 02:56
I think this to be the most absurd corporate case of all times, the word "tata" is common to bidding farewell in india, if the tata family has this surname, that does not mean it becomes an intellectual property of theirs
Sanjay on 14 Sep 2009 at 22:29
Definitely tatas have gone overboard!!! i never knew that the word ta ta was coined by them!! if yes, then they are right!!!
Vimal on 14 Sep 2009 at 21:23
I am not sure, tata is a registered trademark of tata group. Generally i used to see (r) near any logo, which is so.
Atul Kumar on 14 Sep 2009 at 21:11
They have certainly gone overboard and taken advantage of the ignorance of wipo judges. I think someone needs to impress upon wipo that tata is a very generic word in india and there is absolutely no chance to mistake this phrase for anything else. Best thing for tata would have been to make a deal with makemytrip where this iste could proclaim at the top that it has nothing to do with tata group.
Nakul on 14 Sep 2009 at 19:49
Did tata buy the judges ? anyone in the right frame of mind will know that this is not an infringement.
Anirban Dutta on 14 Sep 2009 at 16:15
Clearly disparate. Tatas are playing a sneaky one here, quite unlike them though.
Sam on 14 Sep 2009 at 15:55
I was guessing if tatas plan to launch a travel portal what will they name it....May be they have planned.... i guess they will name it as okmakemytripbyebye.Com ha ha ha ha......Because ok ,makemytrip, bye bye all are generic words.... Ha ha ha the promoters of makemytrip sd use there mind ...
Mridula on 13 Sep 2009 at 00:47
There is mahindra and oktata mentioned on the same truck- http://www.Gonomad.Com/traveltalesfromindia/uploaded_images/oktata-797581.Jpg so who does this truck belongs to?
Kas on 12 Sep 2009 at 14:53
Are you serious? so what these hair-brained creatures are telling us is that we cannot use any word in our conversation which has any chance of being someone's name, else we'll be sued? interesting, so what are we supposed to talk with? articles and prepositions?
Mukesh on 10 Sep 2009 at 22:50
Sorry buddy.... But colloquism is one thing and commercial use of tata is another thing. I think tata sons has point. Sorry, but this happens in life. on 09 Sep 2009 at 19:49
This is just a guess as i'm not aware of the nationality of the wipo panelist, but perhaps he/she was not indian, hence was unaware of the colloquial usage of the disputed phrase in india as a goodbye. I hope you have better luck in the appeal. A bit of free legal advice - you should look into this recent malaysian case where mcdonalds lost a copyright infringement suit against a joint named mccurry.
Velan on 09 Sep 2009 at 10:13
It is a common phrase that people especially children use it while leaving. can tata file case against these websites.. tatabotata.Com babytata.Com tatavega.Com ajtata.Com tata-tatao.To tatacubancafe.Com etc. in this situation, how can they claim????
Ashish on 09 Sep 2009 at 09:56
Ok ta ta bye bye is commonly use in india to say bye bye... I am surprise that how tata sons claim it...???
Singaravelan on 09 Sep 2009 at 09:31
It is a generic phrase used by our people while leaving (particularly with/by childrens). It is no way connected to tata sons !. can tata file case against us for using nano in thier websites like : www.Nano.Gov, www.Naturalnano.Com etc. this is not right. We all have to support to this website.
Chaitanya Ramachandran on 08 Sep 2009 at 23:12
I sympathize with you completely. I am a lawyer, and even a cursory glance at the udrp conditions shows that tata has no case. Hope the hc sees it that way, and you can rightfully keep your domain.
Sanjay on 08 Sep 2009 at 19:59
No way can it confuse
Ashwani Kumar Jain on 08 Sep 2009 at 14:02
This is a common phrase when we say good buy to someone.Ok tata buy buy.
Grandfather on 08 Sep 2009 at 11:16
What shit is makemytrip doing . why not these arrogant people closes oktatabyebye. Its their complete failure that they can not name their portal in an innovative ways.And now are adamant.
Indranil Goswami on 08 Sep 2009 at 10:55
This idea is so absurd that i feel pity for the poor sons of tata ! is this a reflection of extreme insecurity or some vicious conspiracy preceded by lunacy? i agree completely with kamalaksha das. As it is all their products are substandard. So why cant they just mind their own business trying to make a litle better steel, cars, coconut oil or mobile/net stuff? why are they up2 screwing the happiness of some cool people who are only interested in travel, and have nothing to do with them? or are they conspiring of charging people who do ta ta to their dear ones at the airports and railway stations? i have read somewhere that the earl of sandwich now wants royalty money against any "sandwich" that is made, sold or eaten! how much would it be for the tatas ? rs 2/- per ta ta? indranil goswami. filmmaker.
Ranjan Sehgal on 08 Sep 2009 at 09:44
Normally in villages- cities we do ram ram to any body while meeting or departing. Does it means we are calling dr. Ram manohar lohia?, or dr. Shri ram lagoo , or mr. Ram vilaas paswan? please carry on this"oktatabyebye" term as this is in general practice, as well as in fame.
Sunaabh Sarkar on 08 Sep 2009 at 08:45
Cyber lawyer and doordarshan anchor turned wipo arbitrator pavan duggal is simply looking for cheap publicity... Pavan you had already made your presence felt through doordarshan and your articles in the newspapers. This storm was certainly not necessary... But on the hind side, i understand, your compulsions may be have been melt down related... We don't mind you earn your publicity as long as it not detrimental to any one.... Good luck
Kamalaksha Das on 07 Sep 2009 at 23:31
Baseless. Ratan tata should see a psychiatrist.
Sunaabh Sarkar on 07 Sep 2009 at 22:17
This has a reference to mr sitaraman's post on 06 sep 2009 at 13:41. Friends his statement just proves that ottbb team is doing a very good job which is viewed as at par with a produce of a market leader in the global scenario. But this in no way dilutes the fact that what tata sons have resorted to is unethical and unbecoming of them...
Sunaabh Sarkar on 07 Sep 2009 at 22:02
This is outrageous. Tomorrow they will ask the world to stop the use of the word nano, titan, steel or what ever. Never thought the tata sons could stoop so low... Tata shame! shame!!! btw this portal is known as oktatabyebye a single word name and and the moment heard brings travel and only travel in the minds not the tatas by any remote chance. Btw congrats ottbb team, your good job is being noticed and envied up on... :)
Kartik Mistry on 07 Sep 2009 at 20:57
Hmm, thats nonsense. -- tata bye bye!
Shruti on 07 Sep 2009 at 20:04
Since theres ok before ta ta and bye bye after it i do not see how any confusion can arise.
Bidisha on 07 Sep 2009 at 18:07
Hi, thats a common bengali tern that we use almost everyday to denote we r going somewhr - nothing to do with the tatas at all
Vadiraj C S on 07 Sep 2009 at 17:23
I am dismayed by the decison of the wipo, to award oktatabyebye.Com ownership to tata. This decison is lacking in intelligence. It is also disturbing to note that, a gaint like tata can resort to bullying small but proud companies like oktatabyebye.Com. Let us hope our judiciary is more sensible and fair.
Sonal Mittal on 07 Sep 2009 at 16:26
In such case they should then file a case against all the truckwalas too who use this phrase "ok ta ta bye bye" and also the use of word 'tata' should be banned while parting off. amazed to hear wipo's decision. thanks sonal
Anirban on 07 Sep 2009 at 16:12
This is ridiculous! this site has nothing to do with 'tata's and they never claim to be a part of tata group...This is a great site for travel community and should live like this.
Rakesh Kumar on 07 Sep 2009 at 11:14
Well the accusation put by the tata sons seems more rediculous to me rather making any logic ,as me myself using this site never thought of tata name used in its domain name .So its just seems a attempt of showing off its thier market strenth ...I wil believe it should be left best to user only that what they intrepret of the site name...Rather than people who have other malicious intensions.....
Rakesh Kumar on 07 Sep 2009 at 11:13
Well the accusation put by the tata sons seems more rediculous to me rather making any logic ,as me myself using this site never thought of tata name used in its domain name .So its just seems a attempt of showing off its thier market strenth ...I wil believe it should be left best to user only that what they intrepret of the site name...Rather than people who have pther malicious intensions.....
Bhupinder Singh on 07 Sep 2009 at 10:28
Ta ta as tata no way dude............ What is the relation between the two
Ambrish Tyagi on 07 Sep 2009 at 02:48
Can only say that tata sons must focus on their own business; rather than meddling with others' ... Oktatabyebye.Com in no way can be called a propriety name owned by tata sons ... Hope common semse prevails. if a court of law approves the claim of tata son's ... Then only it can legally be interpreted as a proprietory name exclusively by tata sons god bless tata sons !
Dipu on 07 Sep 2009 at 02:21
This is baloney!
Sambit Pattajohi on 06 Sep 2009 at 22:56
Just one sentence ' its absurd & not tata sons like' period
Vinay Kumar on 06 Sep 2009 at 21:42
Yes it is like that if somebody 's name is ram he would claim rampur to be his property
Rishi Raj Srivastava on 06 Sep 2009 at 21:32
No way this name confuses us , tata no doubt is a respectable name and we salute them but at the same time every tata word dosent belongs to tata, and its no way confusing
Sitaraman on 06 Sep 2009 at 13:41
I have worked and lived in indonesia and malaysia for a long time. In these parts ta ta is not used as a parting greeting but bye bye is common. I am writing this from malaysia where tata trucks and buses are in use and the name tata is recognized as the largest conglomerate in india (it may not be the largest now but reliance is not known here). i showed the portal name to a couple of friends and asked them what they thought about it and their immediate reaction was that it is something promoted by tata's. I believe this may as well be the reaction in africa and other countries where the tata brand is well known and respected. I wish the promoters of this business portal well but would certainly like to point out how the name would be viewed outside india.
Devashish Chanana on 06 Sep 2009 at 11:52
Very very strange and indeed it can happen in a country like india only. Tata being movers and developers of our country are so fragile and insecure?? everyone who lives in india knows that oktatabyebye is a famous "off you go your way" saying the roots of which are as old as our nation-india or maybe more. No way, no way it gives tata the company a right to solely keep it to themselves. That ways each one of us has used it sometime or the other and are guilty, i still prefer saying 'tata' instead of 'goodbye' when i leave so am i guilty????????
Prachi on 06 Sep 2009 at 11:35
I really respect the tata group but in this case its very weird of them to have even filed this case. Its obvious that 'tata' in 'oktatabyebye' does not convey their name at all!!
Supratimm Sen on 06 Sep 2009 at 09:36
This is really pathetic,tatas have simply gone mad,how can they claim such general words as their own company trademark however we almost use such words in our regular life is that we need to have copyrighted word rights while talking in public,bullshit
Snehalkumar Patel on 05 Sep 2009 at 23:33
This is really pathetic. How can one claim a generic word like "ta ta" to be copyrighted? that way you also must be using word "nano" which is a scientific word, invented by some scientist. This is really hopeless claim by company like tata.
Uma on 05 Sep 2009 at 21:44
In the south, most lorries have the word tata painted on it. .. Meaning tata bye bye. It is the most common expression a south indian says. what are they going to do, make every lorry and tempo owner repaint his vehicle? sad, sad, that the tata's have sunk to this level.
Deepika on 05 Sep 2009 at 21:41
What rubbish!. I say “ok tata bye bye” pretty much every day. It amazes me that a big group like the tata’s is such a paranoid wreck that it has to target a light hearted site that is named after what must be the most common expression all over india to say adios.
Deepika on 05 Sep 2009 at 21:30
What rubbish!. I say “ok tata bye bye” pretty much every day. It amazes me that a big group like the tata’s is such a paranoid wreck that it has to target a light hearted site that is named after what must be the most common expression all over india to say adios.
Harish on 05 Sep 2009 at 20:38
Okaytatabyebye.Com is useful and harmless to tata. Can we say tata when we go on a journey? bunch of paranoid nutcases!
Mayank on 05 Sep 2009 at 16:48
This is ridiculous.Oktatabyebye should continue.I hope this dispute is resolved rationally in favour of oktatabyebye and wish the team all the best.Mayank
Atul on 05 Sep 2009 at 16:12
Guess the "tatas" love making a fool out of themselves :p
Gaurav Chaudhri on 05 Sep 2009 at 15:35
Come on !! al the gentlemen in tata cannot feel threatened or intimidated by a fun loving light hearted travel site like yours. Funnily they have , and you are right to take up your cause with the appropriate authorities. Ta ta is bye bye and vice versa for god sake!!
Mohan on 05 Sep 2009 at 12:22
Look at the following link... http://en.Wiktionary.Org/wiki/ta_ta.. you should write to mr ratan tata directly. Probably they employ loyalists who understand only a single meaning of tata. All the best in your fight for justice.
Mohanasundar Ts on 05 Sep 2009 at 12:11
My opinion is , this is a ridiculous action from the tatas. As a matter of fact , as child, till i grew up and to be 15 / 16 yrs, i my understanding of tata was as in tata, byebye see you... Never as a name. I am sure still there are lot of people who understand tata as in tata, byebye see you
Pranav on 05 Sep 2009 at 10:20
This is ridiculous. i'm with you oktatabyebye team.
Jn on 05 Sep 2009 at 09:28
Total crap. It does not make any sense. If i change my house name as tata do they own my house. I respect tatas very much but did not expect this from them. I'm very much disappointed
Saibal Dutta Gupta on 05 Sep 2009 at 07:33
Oktatabyebye should continue.
Prashanth M on 05 Sep 2009 at 02:15
Bizarre!!! then what about airtel.Com redirecting to its competitor's page (vodafone spain)!!
Shubham Katiyar on 04 Sep 2009 at 23:36
This is strange coming from tatas whom i respect for their csr, and i have seen them closely as i worked there for about three years. Why are tatas so insecure i will like to know. Most of us have used ta ta as a farewell greeting how can tatas put claim on a word in the commonly used english language, i think this is a wrong precedent if this appeal goes in favour of tatas as there would be numerous other claims that would follow.
Nikhil Jain on 04 Sep 2009 at 23:14
In my view, the step was a bit hard, but as tata does hold a proprietary name, it would be better if you change the name to ta-ta instead of tata
Budhaditya Choudhury on 04 Sep 2009 at 22:48
Its really bizarre...Unexpected of the tatas..
Atul Seth on 04 Sep 2009 at 18:11
How bizarre...But tata's were never known for this !! ....By the same logic ...Tata should next target all the truckers with ok tata written behind ?? ...
Shubhomoy Mukherjee on 04 Sep 2009 at 15:27
Oktatabyebye is a very useful forum for public to share their opinions and find a great deal of information useful for travel. It has nothing to do with tata sons and there is no likelihood of confusion with the same.
Patently Yours on 04 Sep 2009 at 14:15
See my blog where i wrote about this http://patentlyyours.Wordpress.Com/2009/08/27/domain-oktatabyebye-com-transfered-to-tata/ while i do not agree with this wipo decision, i would like to remind you of your behavior in cybersquatting clearmytrip.Net.In where you have no legitimate rights. the whois registry shows that it is in your name. http://whois.Domaintools.Com/cleartrip.Net.In on what moral ground are you appealing against this decision.
Khurshid Buhariwala on 04 Sep 2009 at 13:30
The name tata is for tata and sons and should not be used by anybody
Sanjay Bhatia on 04 Sep 2009 at 11:55
This decision shows how intellectually bankrupt the panelist is. calling him an "expert" in i.P and i.T issues is an absolute joke. what next? will tata sue every lorry owner in the country? the arbitrator needs a refresher course in basics of trademark law.
Mohan on 04 Sep 2009 at 10:35
I wish the matter be at the earliest resloved in okttbb's favor.
Apurv Pandit on 04 Sep 2009 at 08:20
Dear administrators, i was the guy who was involved in the kicking off of oktatabyebye initially when it was being run by webchutney. I won the travel blogging contest and traveled to ladakh on okttbb's expense... A trip i'll remember all my life! so i have very fond memories of this website and the people behind it - some of whom are very good friends of mine now - and all of them were obsessively passionate about the cause of travel. not only do i support oktatabyebye's claim for this domain, i doubt it if a phenomenal man like rata tata would approve of this irrational action made by an erring manager somewhere down the hierarchy, if he came to know about it. This does not speak of the same values that tata sons displays in its other ventures. i hope this dispute is resolved rationally in favour of okttbb and wish the team all the best. apurv
Atanu on 04 Sep 2009 at 00:15
The simily cannot be a topic for filing suit
Harish on 03 Sep 2009 at 22:26
Harish / narayanan.Harish@gmail.Com. This is one of the most ridiculous suits i've ever heard of.
Subrato Roy on 03 Sep 2009 at 18:35
After singur,seems that tata have very little or no work. Ta ta is a common phrase we use it every now and then, it doesn't have any relation with ratan tata. These people are mad.
P.lata on 03 Sep 2009 at 18:15
I dont think anyone can confuse the two companies.Oktatabyebye is about travel and in no way am i confused that it is in any way related to the tata group.The case filed against the travel company in my opinion has no legitimacy.
Sintu Dhiman on 03 Sep 2009 at 17:52
Hi, this is sintu from chandigarh and i would like to appricate that the efforts the you have done and want to be done. thanks !
Manoj Bishnoi on 03 Sep 2009 at 17:42
Every body knows this ta ta is used to bye so oktatabyebye is a not a tata brand
Siddharth on 03 Sep 2009 at 17:10
Tata means good bye and on the other hand, we have got our country's world renowned company by the name of "tata sons limited". Now, everybody in daily life uses the word "tata" as a goodbye gesture but on the other hand it should be noted that it is not used commercially. So, i think tata sons limited is absolutely correct in protecting their intellectual property right of the word "tata" as it is being used by "oktatabyebye" website for their commercial use.
Sreekumar on 03 Sep 2009 at 16:58
Dear oktatabyebye.Com folks, kindly respect intellectual property rights of tata sons
Sreekumar on 03 Sep 2009 at 16:58
Dear oktatabyebye.Com folks, kindly respect intellectual property rights of tata sons
Anil Moses on 03 Sep 2009 at 16:44
It is ridiculous and not actual.
Grandfather on 03 Sep 2009 at 14:33
The promoters of oktatabyebye donn use mind... Just try using others trade mark ..This is in one way a theft and stealing and befolling consumers.They sd understand the thing and revise mba books and then do business...Insted of using others brand name they sd try developing their own brands.....They sd close down all operation from immediate effect.
Mohamad Tahir on 03 Sep 2009 at 14:32
Its my pleasure to help tata sons to start sue on all domain owners to handover all domains those are using tata in their domain. Some of the domains are listed as below. http://www.Davetata.Com, http://www.Bobotata.Com, http://www.Tata.Com.Pk/, http://www.Tara-tata.Com/, http://www.Tatabotata.Com/, http://www.Ajtata.Com/, http://www.Babytata.Com, http://www.Nannytata.Com, http://www.Delegatebobtata.Com/, http://www.Oktata.Com/, http://www.Tata.Com.Cn/, http://www.Batik-tata.Com/, http://www.La-tata.Com/, http://www.Rapidotata.Com.Ar/, http://www.Tatayoung.Com/, http://www.Tata888.Com/, http://www.Tatanaka.Com, http://www.Tatavega.Com/, http://www.Tata2you.Net/, no need to search. Don't waste time and start to case file.
Ankur Sooden on 03 Sep 2009 at 14:16
Tomorrow somebody will come up and say "bye bye" is his copyrighted material.
Sidharth on 03 Sep 2009 at 13:24
"colloquial references cannot be the property of any corporate...Like the word "idea" does not belong to idea - the telecommunications company." i agree ...
Manish on 03 Sep 2009 at 13:18
I dont think tata has got anything to do with the word "ta ta"
Girish Chandra on 03 Sep 2009 at 12:19
I support oktatabyebye. Tata's concerned person should think about it more. How can they claim all websites with the word tata.
Francis on 03 Sep 2009 at 11:30
Tata sons have evidently missed the plot on domain names. This goliath attack only diminishes their brand in the eyes of many.... Unless they want to get into the travel business themselves. Pathetic. Hang in there!
Xyz on 03 Sep 2009 at 11:07
Dear partha, i understand your plea. There are many precedents which talks about these kind of matters. Favoring you as well going against you.
Minakshi on 03 Sep 2009 at 09:45
Yes , this is completly understandable and thr is no confusion on the name oktatabyebye is a commenly used phrase...I think site doesnt belong to tata sons and they should withdraw there rights...
Apoorv Bhatia on 03 Sep 2009 at 09:32
Oktatabyebye the phrase itself stands for that its somethinng related to travel and iam quite surprised that estemmed organisation like tata sons claiming the same despite the fact that dont even have something related to travel. this is completely unacceptable on tata part and i strongly support make my trip so that they can have there domain back and tata should withdraw there rights at the earliest
Anjoo Kakkar on 02 Sep 2009 at 23:46
We cannot standby and let injustice happen tata is a commonly used word ..So why should one person claim owenership of it and i cannot imagine a giant like tata stooping so low
Oindrila on 02 Sep 2009 at 22:32
I think it's just simply bizaare!!! wshat next? how can anyone be violating a law for using a common english word? tata is a company i respect and am a bit surprised at this. Here's my vote in support of this fabulous website!
Vismadev Chatterjee on 02 Sep 2009 at 21:16
I think this is a very folish & childish thing by the tata son's.
Vijay Adam on 02 Sep 2009 at 20:20
'oktatabyebye" i am hearting since my childhood. It is quite simple and general word. It does not at anytime remind me of tata or any of its group co.S if you are in any way, not, misusing tata name, then to my knowledge and belief there is no harm done to tata group.
Jyosyulu on 02 Sep 2009 at 20:13
Ta ta, bye is a cultural word on the indians, whether he is one year old or one hundered and fifty years old to say and indicate that one is going on a tour, and, more commonly while going to even offices and when the kids goes to school, the parents tell the kids, ta ta. it does not mean it represents people. i am a lover of tata brand and feel proud that tata brand is india's proud symbol, but it cannot be mistaken with indian culture and heritage of ta ta, bye bye. people cannot mistaken themselves or their brand with the sentiment/cultural feeling of public. i hope the truth will win.
Saurav Bhattacharya on 02 Sep 2009 at 19:09
I am sure we can win this on the basis of joint agreement. I feel this is really unacceptable and against our democratic rights. mob. 9831601216 (kolkata)
Ravish Swarup on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:46
This is an outright ridiculous and petty act by tata. there is no way that a consumer can confuse oktatabyebye.Com to be a tata entity. It will only be fair that tata withdraws this claim immediately.
Suman Gandham on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:41
Hello, i support you to own your domain oktatabyebye.Com . Tata is acting like a monopoly they have no rights to do this
Ashish Kumar on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:18
Ta ta is a common word we use in our language to say good bye.....This name has nothing to do with the tata sons business...Oktatabyebye is the best site for travel and other stuffs i wud not like this site to be changed ,modified or comes into other hand where it will loose its meaning....And make lots of users suffer and dissapoint.... tata sons is a big business this site is not creating any problem to the company...Neither it has any business to do with the name of tata .....
Prem on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:17
Even i join you guys
Purabi Dasgupta on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:08
You have my full support
Rajesh Biswas on 02 Sep 2009 at 18:03
It is an example of showing muscle power of big to small. There is no any violation in using the oktatabyebye by other than tata sons. Most of us use ta ta to say good bye. you must appeal in the court against this action.
Rooturaj on 02 Sep 2009 at 17:59
Here is a suggestion on my blog about some people tatas should sue. There is one site batatavada.Com . Total infringement of tatas intellectual rights i guess.
Manoj Sharma on 02 Sep 2009 at 17:42
It is a general word and tata's can't claim their ownership on this..... if it is so ... Then you should go ahead with santabanta.Com also... As they are also using the word ta ta ...Though in two parts... it is not execpted form tata's..
Neelanjana Sen on 02 Sep 2009 at 17:24
Ridiculous. in our country 90% of trucks have got ok tata bye bye written with colourful paints on the rear of the vehicles. is tata sons going to sue all those truck owners/operators throughout the country? let them first do so and win the case, and with that judgement as a precedent, sue oktatabyebye.Com. please tell your lawyers to use this in their argument - you are sure to win your case. good luck.
Tata on 02 Sep 2009 at 17:05
I support oktatabyabya.Com. No one can ask me question unless i use only word "tata" or have anything uploaded on the site which directly or indirectly reflect tata's image.
Johnshyam on 02 Sep 2009 at 16:15
I think oktatabyebye is well within its right to keep this name. Tata has no copy right over the various tatas we have been giving our friends !!
Rooturaj on 02 Sep 2009 at 15:40
Just wrote a post on this. http://rooturaj.Com/business/instant-fame-shortcut-tata-domain-name/ enjoy. Get those domain names they are your ticket to fame. Ha ha
Grandfather on 02 Sep 2009 at 14:20
Yes if he have same full name , dob and can produce other document also... but this shop need to be closed as soon as possible.
Amit Sharma on 02 Sep 2009 at 14:13
Does this mean that my friend whose name begins with rattan by law becomes their father :)
Vaibhav on 02 Sep 2009 at 13:29
This is just ridiculous. These just dont match.
Rooturaj on 02 Sep 2009 at 13:07
This is sick. Even a kid will tell the significance of tata in oktatabyebye.Com. i had a high opinion of tata group but with the orissa port construction overlooking the danger to olive ridleys and this issue of oktatabyebue the reputation has tarnished.
Dr. Nirav Dhokia on 02 Sep 2009 at 12:52
Dont distrubg guy let ok tata bye bye to do their work
Tapanjee on 02 Sep 2009 at 12:32
It is outrageous that tata sons' should claim ownership on anything where "..Tata.." appears!! on indian roads there are scores of trucks with signs at their rear "ok tata phir milenge", so what would tata sons do to them? is wipo divorced from the reality or influenced by the tata money? one thing though is that this website has gained popularity amongst the netizens and so targeted by usurpers with any flimsy baseless ploy... So cheer up you are on the top.
Pooja on 02 Sep 2009 at 12:21
Saurav - try registering sachintendulkar.Com you may fancy to call yourself anything butt hat doesn't automatically give you the right to register the names! pity, a big pity that most people here are treating naming themselves as eqvivalent to registereing a domain. Proves how much more learnign and reading there is to do. Let me know if you suceeed in registering sachintendulkar.Com.I am waiting saurav
Grandfather on 02 Sep 2009 at 12:14
Hi all .Tata has launched a new plan for cdma consumers.Just 1 rs for each call irrespective of duration.3 rs for std irrespective of duration .Now this is a truly responsible and consumer friendly company which is in a real service of nation .It provide the brand which even a chai wala uses and also provide a brand which 99 % of indian can not use.
Grandfather on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:54
You r vry right pooja . People just don't have any exposure and they just starts voting and giving emotional opinions.While there own organization is a shrewd profession trying to cut throat of competition by any means..
Pooja on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:34
Let us leave the matter to the judiciary which is more knowledgable, neutral, experienced and more importantly would give the issue the time and thought necessary to bring this matter to a final conclusion. We are doing no justice to either make my trip or tatas by passing judgments whcih are backed up by little thought, knowledge or ability. Make my trip wouldn't be too happy with a made my trip. These are generic terms as rightly pointed out by someone below. Brands get created over time. Tata is a pioneer in the same. People look up to a product of the tatas. It creates a trust in the mind of the consumer. They are right in going all out to save their brand from being misused.
Saurav on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:32
Well today it's the last name - tommorow it can be first. So we can't name our kids sachin as mr tendulkar can sue us. This absolutely makes no sense as tata is a very common mode of saying bye in india and over the globe. Why doesn't tata and sons concenterate on their business and stop behaving like clowns. We are with you. Bravo
Pooja on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:27
Brad pitt after all is a name. Can you name your son that and register a domain for him? no. Why not? because, free loaders want to do just that and, make money out of it. tata may have many meanings but that doesn't stop them from claiming a right over their own brand name. Laws are derived from the need of the hour, prevailing misuse and loopholes. Ip laws have been speedily progressing because of the rampant misuse. Today it is oktatabyebye, tomorrow tatabyebye, then tata? one must look at every issue from both the perspectives. One may not be completely right and the other completely wrong but then, isn’t that why we have laws and judges who are here to take that neutral call.
Gargi on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:05
It is illogical to confuse and claim that if a site/ compnay/ domanin name contains the word ta ta it belongs to the tata sons organisation. This website deals with travel related information & ta ta used here is the term used for bye bye in hindi in our country. I firmly believe in this. The tata's cannot make baseless allegations just because they are an important name in the country.
Grandfather on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:04
@rajesh what is this this domain is still working .The organization which cannot respect court orders can only guile its consumers .I hope i will not see this domain in next few days .If tata is a generic name then makemytrip is also a generic name .
Prabhu Tandon on 02 Sep 2009 at 11:03
I think the judgement is all set to establish a wrong precedent.
Toby on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:30
Corporate vs. Public - case 101. Public is king. Think the tatas have forgotten the age old truism. Please don't let this case proceed. It would open a pandora's box.
Rakesh Jinsi on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:17
Tata is taking it too far.I do not think anyone sensible will link this to tata group.And moreso the businees activity is so different in which tata has no presence.They need to relise that ta ta also means soething else in common parlance.
Haritha on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:09
The baseless and juvenile allegations (wipo judges being bribed with westside coupons and more) prove the seriousness with which the comments against the tatas have been posted. It also shows the maturity and experience levels of the people posting these comments. On that reason alone they can be nullified. I sincerely wish people having a decent amount of ip law knowledge or knowledge otherwise had more to say. Meanwhile the nincompoops can shut up and may be utilise the time to read up a little more before expressing such silly views.
Kalyan Kumar on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:09
Sir, i respect tata group , i request them not to make this common ta ta (bye bye) which is related to tours and relatives send off , which we use very commonly .
Hiro Wadhwani on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:09
Dont let mighty tata bully this excellent and helpful site.
Sunil Kumar on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:02
And just as a reminder i have been using oktatabyebye.Com since it started and i have never felt that it was trying to channel traffic to makemytrip.Com. All this is bogus and false propaganda.
Chandni Monga on 02 Sep 2009 at 10:00
Wow, this is so absurd. I guess, this way, tata sons can even sue little infants who actually start saying " tata " first even before they say mama or papa.. .. makemytrip need not worry!!!!! tata would not be able to do anything as 'tata' is such a colloquial term used in everyday life.
Sunil Kumar on 02 Sep 2009 at 09:54
It is utterly disgusting that a company like the respect of the tata's could do such a thing. If this thing truly happens i vow to never buy a tata product again in life wherever possible. I will never stay at any of taj hotels. Lets all show "ta ta" to tata products in unison.
Satyaki on 02 Sep 2009 at 09:34
I request the hon'ble court to give the required relief to this reputable website providing travel services. Their domain name is not infringing on tata sons' businesses nor is it invoking any imagery associated with tata sons' businesses. Oktatabyebye is a very common phrase, often seen on trucks and other vehicles on highways. such generic phrases can not be allowed to be trademarked or held captive by a certain company in any way. thanks
Rajesh on 02 Sep 2009 at 09:33
@grandfather , i am sorry my daddu :) your wish and your aka's wish (tata) not fulfilled , feel sorry for you...
Priungkush on 02 Sep 2009 at 08:03
This is unfortunate. Do the tata's have nothing better to do. It seems in times of recession, they have run out big ideas and are approaching mediocre ways. This is unbeleiveable. If the logic which tatas cite as a reason for claiming the domain of this website. Then might as well wipe out ok tata bye bye written behind every heavy motor vehicle in the country...
Simeesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 23:44
I agree to it oktatabyebye.Com in no way can get confused with tata busineeses because what does tata mean by the claim is nobody in this world allowed to open a website with the word tata included in their name is tata only their property tata business may be their property but not the word tata which if i do remember has been using from many many years so the name oktatabyebye in no way should be given to tata i am totally against this. simeesh j dubai
Supriya Mohan on 01 Sep 2009 at 23:03
Somebody at tata sons obviously doesnt know what 'ta-ta' also means. This is sheer dadagiri. Nahi chalega.
Pavittar Singh on 01 Sep 2009 at 22:58
It is absolutely ridiculous. I am sure, somebody at the tatas has pulled up a fast one and tried to show that he is engaged gainfully in these times of recession. There are ways to safeguard their interests and this one is the most laughable one. May wisdom dawn upon them. Similarly someone should then sue them for nano as it has been taken from the physics.
Ranadip Datta on 01 Sep 2009 at 21:02
Ta ta bye bye is a very common phrase in india and is in no way related to tata the business tycoons. only a fool or mentally challanged person can confuse tata bye bye with tata. it is very mean and low thinking in part of tata sons to appeal against the domain name. the tata's cannot have intellectual rights over the phrase tata bye bye.
Ashutosh Tiwari on 01 Sep 2009 at 20:42
This is so rediculous. As far as i am concerned this should not be happening. These are common phrase that we use daily and it is common to find the phrase tata anywhere in india atleast and do tatas own the claim on that.
Kapil Chaddha on 01 Sep 2009 at 20:27
I agree with the opinion of "ta ta" being a common hindi synonym for bye-bye. However, i would request tata's to allow us to continue with this name. Incase, the same fails, we can rename ourselves as "okta-tabyebye.Com". i'm sure you would have explored all legal options before entering into any arbitrations. wishing all the best !! cheers, kapil
Mihir Modi on 01 Sep 2009 at 20:03
I'd say, chhoti gaadi banane waalon ki soch bhi chhoti hoti hai :p
N.k.sivakumar on 01 Sep 2009 at 19:02
We are very happy with oktatabyebye.Com for travel support. This website is not at all disturb the tata groups, i felt as a user of this website.
Satish Sharma on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:55
I think tata is a sirname and no any person do objection for it & other main it is use for "achha to hum chalte hain"oktatabyebye is the way we indians say goodbye so it should not be confused with tatasons
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:52
@rajesh please donn tell anyone !
Suhas Taral on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:35
I do not agree with u. My fully support to tata sons.
Hemantkumar Jain on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:34
Tata is not a propreitary word. Its the hindi word for good bye; used widely by a huge population. How can tata's claim ownership of a commonly used hindi language word. what next, will they start charging the crores of people in india who say 'tata' to their loved ones everyday when they leave home. ???
Rajesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:18
@grandfather - i am talking professionally , can understand it hurts you as you are getting paid :) btw , who has confirmed this domain will not be available tomorrow - u got caught my friend.
Narayan Pramanik on 01 Sep 2009 at 18:07
It is quite absurd to confuse anyone by "oktatabyebye" with tata.It is completely a ridiculous thinking.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:59
@rajesh donn talk unprofessional just behave like a gc. Hope tomorrow morning i will not be able to see this domain
Sameer on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:57
We are with you... Ta ta is a very generic word in india and why should mr.Tata object to that. I think it exists before he was born. we need to stop this tata company from such nonsense case. Tomorrow if you say ta ta(bye) to your family member on a tour, this mr. Tata will start asking for a loyalty money... Such a cheap show by tata. this tata is slowly trying to control the life of all indians from salt, auto, mobile, etc.. and one day he will put tax on all of us. We need to stop this bachelor. thank god, there is no mr. Byebye, or he will ask his share of money...
Manju Khanna on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:54
Oktatabyebye is the way we indians say goodbye so it should not be confused with tatasons
Fredy on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:44
the fact that you see the need to conduct such a poll shows the confidence you have in your own claim. People claim rights over combination of generic terms, a perfect example would be your very own website make-my-trip, which is merely a combination of generic terms. How on earth can you, an owner of a combination of mere generic terms, challenge the rights of a brand belonging to one of the most reputable business houses in the country?
Anthony on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:41
You should leave the job of judging what is right and wrong to the judicial system. If every party to a legal proceeding conducted a private poll such as this, we wouldn’t need the system anymore, would we? it’s not the question how you or i interpret it. Our ip laws set the criteria for creating a right. They have the rights. Simple.
Viswanathan.v on 01 Sep 2009 at 17:22
It is ridiculous that a great institutionnlike tata have thought of the use of ta ta as an infringement. The business models are totally different and any lay man can easily make out that there is hardly any comparison between the two names. I consider the action of tatasons to be totally wrong and think that they better concentrate on issues that really matter to them. I feel that you shodul get a verdict in the appeal. My support is with you.
Rajesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 16:57
@grandfather , how much are you going paid for each comment you make for tata's. You talk about iq / eq - dont think you even have a sense of what you are commenting on... Now it is time for you to leave , hence ok tata bye bye
Gopal on 01 Sep 2009 at 16:34
I don't agree with you. Tata sons are right..
Rinchan on 01 Sep 2009 at 16:26
It's shame to see something like this by tata, a perfact answer to this is http://www.Flyyoufools.Com/tata-vs-oktatabyebye/
Yogesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:57
Well by that token the word ta ta (which by the way is an expression) should be removed from all dictionaries because that would be an infringement too. This is a case of --purpose lost in transit-- tata's should refrain from such crazy allegations & not arm wrestle small companies, they should take companies their size head on. This is not a trade mark violation & by all means our h'nble courts are going to view it that way too.
Bullet on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:54
I guess its time to say ta ta to tata'a behave like a gentleman not like a businessman every where mr tata bull shit
Priyanka on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:50
I support oktatabyebye.Com as, it is not at all related with the tatats
Sj on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:49
Tata is a very common travel word and no one can claim that to be confusing with their business.
Bimal Pant on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:40
This is absolutly rubbish and that too from group like tata's.
Mohanram P J on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:16
The action by tata borders on the absurd. Ok tata bye bye is painted on many many trucks (tata and others) for years now, and have not claimed any infringement of the tata corporate brand. There is no justification to deny the travel website its name! the only person whi can doso is the one who first wrote it on the back of a truck! ipo rights are all fine, but there is no element of confusion in this case, which could have been the case if the travel website had used, say tata.Com or so. Unless the word tata is used singly in association with any product or service the house of tata should really have no grounds to fight on the issue.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:16
@deep nobody uses tata now a days we use bye and even kids uses bye .Using eq : do anyone use tata in ur house now a days.. if yes than ur clain is right if no then stop befooling public......................
Gunjan Madhusoodanan on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:14
The big tatas are "tata", and do not have a prefix ok, and suffix bye-bye. we have always associated the words-ok,tata,and bye-bye with going away or leaving. it is a very appropriate name for travel website. if the tatas have a problem, maybe they should change their name.
Deep on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:08
Its is completely weird. Its only insane that a tata will be treated as tata. There is no copyright infringed. Its the way we say good bye in north india. Its an expression what comes automatically in the mind before departing. A simple good bye gesture. Ta ta means bye in hindi.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:08
@kanikaa ur point is a valid one , even if i would have know about oktatabyebye 2 year before i would have informed tatas.And i hope u wear aware of that.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 15:04
@sudhir according to u tomorrow i can launch oktatabyebye'e' because this is a generic name .....?????? and nobody sd have objection
Ritesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:53
I guess, tata son's next claim will towards all truck drivers who use the term "ok ta ta bye bye" on the trust itself. tata son's cannot patent a word in a dictionary. Ta ta is used in a common context and no one company or individual can claim their sole right on it.
Kanika on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:50
@grandfather: indeed there is a lot of difference between a web portal and two brands. But i guess there's no difference in infringement laws. If tata cannot be accused of using nano then why oktatabyebye...Just because its a smaller org. And for your information i've seen this site for around 2ys now. Didn't tata notice this for all these 2ys?? and i guess everyone here is talking pretty logical. U seem to be completely biased...Hope u r not from tata only.
Bharath Ravi on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:44
This is the silliest claim tata sons can make. Anyone who confuses "oktatabyebye" with the company tata requires a mental checkup. I hope oktatabyebye.Com gets their domain back from this most extaordinarily case.
Sudhir on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:43
@grandfather: i feel your name tells about you.. You are not into condition to comment on such issues. For this one should be more young by thinking and i feel u r not gud enough for this.. So take rest. Oktatabyebye :)
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:42
@rajesh there is a actually lot of difference between a web portal and other brands.And these 2 things cannot be compared.Perhaps thats why for web related ipr wipo has been christened and spread into services to protact the portals.So that tomorrow nobody can launch a portal called makemytrip again.I just request you to think logically for a while .After that u are free to use your heart.Very few people can use iq or eq at a time .
Meera Shashidhara on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:39
It 's a legimitate claim by 'oktatabyebye'. why are the big ol' tata's feeling insecure about this??
Berjes Shroff on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:37
I don't think your team gave any thought when naming this site. It may have been a genuine mistake or an oversight, but you must correct it by not misusing the highly respected tata brand name. personally, i would never use your site if this is how you intend doing business. It would really be great if you can change this name. when businesses crate domain names, they try to keep it as short as possible. Just okbyebye would have sufficed. i am sure many a true indian would not be in favour of misuse of this brand name and will steer away from doing business on your sight.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:28
Wipo is just for web related iprs and not city and country.Already there are 2 delhi in us.Illogical voting will not result in anything donn't vote here .
Aakash on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:28
This is bull.
Ankit on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:27
Cant expect this from tata's , its a great company
Kabir on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:24
This is where ip gets absurd. India has a weak culture of respecting intellectual property. Attempts to make people respect ip must be encouraged. However, when over-zealous morons decide to abuse the system, it goes against the spirit of the law. "ta ta" in this context is an obvious reference to travel and only a self-important tata legal-eagle could confuse it with the company. I hope you win. The case got you good publicity, though. Never heard of you till the judgement :-)
Rajesh on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:23
@grandfather , hemant is not being emotional , agree that decision has been taken by wipo but it is a weird decision. Where was tata sleeping since last 3 years if they were so cautious about there domain. Why is tata using nano which belongs to intel and safari which belongs to apple computers - should they also sue tata sons. It is there fate that there grandparents choose tata in there surname which is a generic word used in india since ages.
Vidooshak on 01 Sep 2009 at 14:20
This is absurd. Next thing you know, hewlett packard will sue indian government for calling one of its states "hp". Or dell will claim "delhi" as it phonetically contains its trademark. The wipo judge must have got free westside gift coupons ;-)
Harini Kapoor on 01 Sep 2009 at 13:33
We have all used the word tata to say bye-bye long long before we knew that the illustrious family of the tatas existed. Specially when it is being used with the word bye bye, it clears the intention perfectly, it is about travel.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 13:30
@ heman donn be emotional tata has not taken the decision and wipo the international tribunal has taken the decision in the international context.The word ta-ta has no meaning in international context.While the web protals are exposed around the world and have global consumer.And who not knows tata trademark after aqusition of rover and jaguar.Think big man. Illegal shops have to be closed forcefully.
Heman! on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:51
@grandfather: you seem to have been planted by the tatas :) and the type and language you used shows you can stoop down to such a low level. This forum is not malign anyone but to express your fair opinion on the subject. If you feel, oktatabyebye.Com is wrong in using the word 'tata' in its domain, you are free to express that but 'threatening to physically close...' is nothing but bankruptcy of ideas, a clear case of big fish swallowing down small fish. So, dadaji take a chill pill :)
Charlie on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:37
Money made by taking over this site will help tatas recover financial losses made on jlr
Ainy on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:20
Stop this domination!!!
Rane on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:10
Every body agrees that "tata are well known ïn industry and "ta ta "is also well known in personal life while saying bye bye. I would prefer to say ta ta while travelling. I do not know how the individual names are phrases are booked under the laws when many peoples have similar names in world. Is it not over powering the poors and new entrepreneurs!
Jitender Sangwan on 01 Sep 2009 at 12:04
Its not confusing at all as tata is really a very big brand in itself that it is difficult to confuse with this.
Grandfather on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:59
What is this ! this domain is still working . this must be closed immediately.Now.... Or tatas has to physically close the things.
Koundinya on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:57
Its fine
Avi on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:55
Are the tatas going to sue all truck drivers who have the same line on their trucks?
Srijon on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:51
Oktatabyebye can have nothing to do with tata sons. This is not ethical to sue oktatabyebye.Com . We use "tata-byebye" as a word of everyday use. tata's are infringing on indian rights if they want to sue you guys for something like this. the tata companies have a huge public fame for being ethical. Surely if your voice reaches the highest authorities they will listen. my father has worked for tatas. They are not like this. This is work of some inefficient departmental people. Or a flaw in some administrative process.
Rohinton Sethna on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:51
I totally agree that tata logo is distinct and cannot be used by any other person or by any other company.
Rupa Aggarwal on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:50
It's silly. I didnt know the word 'tata' was patented by the tata group. I better be cautious the next time round when i use it to see off someone....Till then tata..Oops
Prashant Chandak on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:43
Tata is a very common bid adieu kinda word...No one can claim an ownership on such general/common/daily use words.
Laila Singh on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:35
The name tata does not belong only to the the tata group nor is it confusing in the least. What about the phrase on the trucks? its ridiculus for a big group like the tata's to fight something like this. Make my trip or any other company has the right to use the word....
Nawzer Lala on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:29
I fully support tatas in this case. This travel website name is definitely an infringement on brand name & goodwill created by tatas over 100 years. The website could have been named okbyebye.Com.
Ravi Teja Sharma on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:16
The name tata might be part of the name of the website but i do not think anyone ever confused it with the tata's. The business too has nothing to do with the tata's business nor does it leverage the tata brand name to attract people to the website. I am sure, the creators of the website did not think of using the tata name within the site name to in some way divert traffic to the website from other tata websites. In fact, if one does a simple google search on tata, the first page doesn't even throw up the website oktatabyebye.Com it is interesting to see that tata sons, which is a much much larger entity than first generation startup makemytrip.Com is threated. ok tata bye bye i am sure is inspired by the number of signs and phrases written on the back of the numerous trucks milling around the country.
Anand Nanda on 01 Sep 2009 at 11:05
I am surprised an entity like tata's is getting into something as silly as this, unless they themselves are planning to get into the travel/ travel portal business
Anand on 01 Sep 2009 at 10:56
I think this is really silly!
Shikha Moudgill on 01 Sep 2009 at 10:56
Oktatabyeby is an indian colloquialism and an intellectual property debate on this is silly.
Srikanth Rapaka on 01 Sep 2009 at 09:57
I dont agree
Fardoon on 01 Sep 2009 at 09:49
They have registered their property. You are using it, rather, misusing it. A third neutral party has already supported their rightful claim. Give up and get back to work. It is going to take you a lot longer (than for the tata's) to recover the legal costs of such futile efforts. I wonder if you ever will make up for loss of reputation of your own company to which you are innocently contributing by the minute. You have a long way to go. Treat this as a wake up call to be ever so careful which naming your future endeavors and move on.
Abhishek on 01 Sep 2009 at 09:48
I am appalled at the stupidity of tata! the people who would ever hear the name of this website are not fools who would confuse this to be related to tata in any manner and those who may will never even know about it. this is not a salt or tea packet! it's a travel community for god's sake. I really wish they get some sense.
Meher on 01 Sep 2009 at 09:47
I think the tata’s have done what any intellectual property owner would do. Who better than the tata’s to claim intellectual property rights? one must also realise that the tata brand is one of the oldest brands in the country? it’s probably the only brand your grand mom and you would both relate to!
Lakshmi on 01 Sep 2009 at 08:32
Save oktatabyebye!
Zarir Oomrigar on 01 Sep 2009 at 08:06
Tata is tata & all others are purely crap
Farida on 01 Sep 2009 at 07:48
Long stading goodwill and trust built by pioneer tata company should not be skillfully used by some unscruplus people without earning its rightful respect.
Michael on 01 Sep 2009 at 04:51
Tata sucks
Shomik Dasgupta on 01 Sep 2009 at 00:53
This is really bizzare!!! does tata group have nothing better to do than pounce upon a travel site?
Jitu on 01 Sep 2009 at 00:47
I think they want some money to become rich...He he he this is rediculous.
Aniruddh Vijayvargiya on 31 Aug 2009 at 23:25
Its a generic phrase. Did tata's make such a claim on bollywood song writers too!
Joydeb Chakraborty on 31 Aug 2009 at 23:16
I know this site as a travel/journey-site as well as a photo contest site where i join for competition with my photos.
Pundreek Semwal on 31 Aug 2009 at 22:59
I`m outta everything here!! just doing it for my friend!! hmm and it seems the tata thing is crap!! oktatabyebye seems one word!! well good luck!! :)
Gautam on 31 Aug 2009 at 22:08
They have no legal standing whatsoever. "ta ta" is a an expression that exists independent of the indian company. see ts eliot in the waste land (lines 171-72): ta ta. Goonight. Goonight. good night, ladies, good night, sweet ladies, good night, good night.
Harsh Dhavale on 31 Aug 2009 at 21:59
I think this online campaign to generate a petition should be banned. This usually goes no where. Remember what happened to signed copies pleas sent to the president and the prime minister of india during the reservation/quota fiasco and farce right? stop this abuse of technology
Ramakrishna on 31 Aug 2009 at 20:55
Ramakrishna 9908006270 i support this cause ..This site should belong to you guys
Anil Srivatsa on 31 Aug 2009 at 20:02
I think the main objectin is nto wiht the use of tata but the look of the font in which tata is used. N this case they have a legit case so i may not be to much for you guys to change the way is looks with the font.
Adil Boomla on 31 Aug 2009 at 19:13
Do not support. You may not have meant it to be, but it does smack of "cheap gimmick". Tata's name is near sacrad in the corporate world.
Pankaj Jindal on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:57
Oktatabyebye is totally differ from tata group
Rajesh on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:51
I guess some of friends do not understand abc of internet and hence supporting tata. pl. Do a basic search in google using tata as key world , do you oktatabyebye.Com appearing anywhere ? it does not appear so i wonder how can people correlate this to tata ?
Apul Choudhary on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:46
By these standards tata sons should claim their rights over use of tanishq and titan by any other company and thus making the words as part of their domain names. How the hell did they think this was reflecting upon their business. I am sure they have bigger agendas to take care of than such a generic appearance of ta ta in this domain name. Should they next ban the world from use of ta ta as a gesture of good bye, it should then be deleted from the dictionary also... Which defines 'tata as informal farewell remark'. c'mon folks grow up. Live up to your image of being the tata group and spare yourselves from these frivolous activities. Dont worry this site won't take over your empire just by making 'tata' as a part of their domain name.
Harjinder Singh on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:45
If i say tata to my kids , it means i have to get permission from tata's !!!!!
Col Din Dayal (retd) on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:41
Dedicated efforts & honesty in the dealings always bring the desired results.Our best wishes ate always with you. dd
Lokesh Sharma on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:17
I don't think anyone can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata sons or their businesses as oktatabyebye have made a mark and a name for themselves.
Ravikanth on 31 Aug 2009 at 18:04
I don't think this email is necessary at all. Everyone in india (safely assumed) has grown up with this ta ta phrase which is synonymous to 'bye'. Their argument hold no water any day and anywhere - in india at least. These guys at tata are wasting their time trying pick a non issue and you guys, worrying about it. Chill.
Zubin Patel on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:58
I fully support tatas in this case. This travel website name is definitely an infringement on their intellectual property. They should create their own brand name & goodwill instead of using the brand name of tatas which represent trust, integrity & responsibility towards the general public.
Vipin on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:58
I don't think anyone can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata sons or their business.
Nadir Elavia on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:52
"tata" name cannot be used by any other website & strict action should be taken against them.
T.k.amin on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:36
I am not in support because tata's brand name which was built by mr.Jamshetji tata & mr.J.R.D.Tata over more than 100 years. So i oppose to those either person company using wrong tata brand name. They are not supposed to spread tata name wrongly by using these kind of wrong practice.
Rayomand Bhadha on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:23
This is a 100 year old brand by itself called "tata" that should not manipulated duplicated or missused by anyone whatsoever for their businesses
Ashissh Malwade on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:18
I dont even get a single thought about tata businesses by this domain name. I think tata businesses is running in loss so they are creating such contruversy. Just ask tata businesses md what do they say to someone while leaving someone behind. Just simple word " oktatabyebye"
Zubin Mistry on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:15
The house of tata's have spent more than a century in creating its brand image which stands for integrity, trust, community initiatives. It is absolutely unethical for another organisation to claim right to use the name in furthering its own business.
Aks on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:14
I don't think anyone can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata sons or their businesses
Ms Daisy M Medhora on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:11
I do not support because tata is brand name which was built over more than 100 years by great man mr jamshedji tata & mr j r d tata . So i oppose the person or company using wrongly tata name. They are not suppose to spread tata name wrongly & guiding people in the wrong way, have no right to do so. I that is why strongly against it. It is a request not to use tata name . Thanks
Anand Behede on 31 Aug 2009 at 17:05
Tata is a brand which few indians grow up not coming across. It touches the lives of one and all. I am sure half your employees use a tata indicom and for all we know your wrist must be adorned with a titan right now! it is funny how we sometimes try so hard to fool ourselves. I must say it is a good try though, no matter how futile. Give up on the attempt to grab another property and get back to work you guys!
Manish Kumar Bansal on 31 Aug 2009 at 16:53
Its no where seems like tata sons, its an travel website.
Kirti Khanna on 31 Aug 2009 at 16:44
This is a travel website and is in no way similar to tata. People in legal team of tata have nothing else to do it seems so the are limiting themselves to such petty issues. Oktatabyebye is minding its own business..Actuallly in this case tata co should sue each and every indian and any damn medium using the word tata...Go and do that 1st and den cum back.
Reena Gandhi on 31 Aug 2009 at 16:40
What is this world coming too...Now generic word like tata (meaning goodbye) has become contentious!!! i dont expect a respectable company like tata to stoop to this illogical level. They, i think are pretty sane people and are not even in the business of travel wonder why this strange contention. An appel to tata - pl do think before u take any action, it effects ok ta ta bye bye severly, while you not at all...!!! pl dont act on a whim. Ok tata bye bye is just a small fish minding its own business, pl do let it go on doing so...Why create a giant wave and try and squish it ???!!!! you have bigger fish to fry, so spend valuable time doing that , a humble request...
Jyotiraj Sarma on 31 Aug 2009 at 16:25
All companies need to follow intellectual trademark rules. Tata is a respected name in the industry and the name itself stands for trust, quality and ethics, something which has been built through years of work. For another company to use its name in its website, especially a website whose name does not feature or is advertised in any normal offering of make my trip is a flagrant abuse of intellectual property rights.
Candy on 31 Aug 2009 at 16:12
Tata is into a lot of businesses anyone can be misled by this domain name. You need to change your team if they cant get you a good name.
Sanjay on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:55
I don't understand why tata people are doing this,am on this forum from last 1yr & never in my mind thought that this forum is by tata co. How can a national pride co. Think so bad & trying to destroy such a good efforts by so many people. I am with oktatabyebye & give my support.
Gavert on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:52
Very smartly you have kept a tick at the vote box in your favour this just shows how creepy you are. Have you lost it cant you come up with something original for gods sake. Tatas is a big name and anyone blind will not be misled by this domain.
Cynthia Noronha on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:48
Tata is a very big name and is in varied businesses. Its an empire which has gained goodwill over a long period of time and i think you just want to piggyback on their reputation. This can easily mislead customers and the common man to think that this is the tatas domain name. Why dont your marketing guys give you something new have they stopped getting bright ideas then there are firms which can help you get names so stop encroaching on the tatas name. Its a name that has got pride for india.
Gautam Basu on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:46
It's really a bizarre thing. Have they gone out of their mind or never used 'ta ta' to bid good bye in their whole life or never heard of the term. It's really regrettable.
Grandfather on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:42
Frankly speaking i was under confusion till now that oktatabye bye was in some way related to tata but was not sure.Mr rajesh must not be emotional .We are a professional and must behave like a professional.When the things goes out of hand we become emotional.Oktatabyebye is using mirror of tata truck and the registered trade mark tata in the home page of oktatabye bye this is unprofessional and unethical behavior on the part of make my trip. When they loose they are emotional otherwise professional. Ha ha ha ....Infact what i feel that makemytrip should also pay the penalty money to tata as well as me (for misguiding).
Rajhesh on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:30
That is a stupid thing that any one can get confused. Every indian knows what that means and also most of the other nation people also have adapted this. these are first few words our children utter and every child cannot be the son or daughter or clan of tata group.
Rajesh on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:15
It is not confusion with tata sons
Sreekumar on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:14
This negative view is the one that stops law from evolving. One major hurdle in the evolution of ipr law in india is the such negative attitude. Iprs are rights akin to fundamental rights and its the right of every creator to have his right protected. One can understand the sentiment attached to it only when one is in the shoes of the innovator / creator. Hence i feel that tata sons is justified by all means to safeguard its rights and oktatabyebye.Com should immediately be transferred to tata sons
Sreekumar on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:14
This negative view is the one that stops law from evolving. One major hurdle in the evolution of ipr law in india is the such negative attitude. Iprs are rights akin to fundamental rights and its the right of every creator to have his right protected. One can understand the sentiment attached to it only when one is in the shoes of the innovator / creator. Hence i feel that tata sons is justified by all means to safeguard its rights and oktatabyebye.Com should immediately be transferred to tata sons
Arjun G on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:12
A brief recall on origin of oktatabyebye. for long years it has been the habit of truckers in india to add ok before the tata logo on their trucks. Some did also add bye bye to this as a sort of taunt for the driver they overtook to read. moreover the ok on a truck back is not the acronym of okay. It is the symbol to indicate horn please before you pass. Write ok together and you will know.
Rajesh on 31 Aug 2009 at 15:08
It is not confusion with tata sons
Grandfather on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:56
Hi , tata is a global company so is makemytrip projecting itself .And each one of u will agree that tata does not stand for bidding adieu internationally.So tata is right in claiming there registered trademark.And makemytrip sd surrender the domain oktatabyebye asap(for now).Its only the lack of vision on behalf of makemy trip while christening the oktatabyebye .
Bishan Sahai on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:43
Ludicrous, to say the least.
Shubha on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:35
Tata sons are paranoid and delusional. Not the best leadership stance to take. i wish oktatabyebye the best in overcoming this unfortunate obstacle.
Rohini on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:20
Any indian will know what ok ta ta bye bye stands for. Highly unlikely to be confused with the prestigious tata group. The tat goup should understand this and leave the budding entrepreneurs alone.
Rajnish on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:10
I dont think www.Oktatabyebye.Com is anywhere related to tata sons.
Diwakar Khatri on 31 Aug 2009 at 14:07
This arrogance and stupid on part of tata to initiate such an action.
Kanwar on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:49
Wow.....The tatas seem to have loads of spare time on their hands. Funny
Govardhan on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:36
There is no relation between tata sons & hindi/marathi ta-ta phrase. good luck parth... You will get justice
M on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:35
It makes me wonder if you are going bankrupt or not. Coz if you aren't, why didn't you requested for more panelists? also, i'm not sure but i have found some videos of the wipo panelist pavan at tcs. It could be possible that the panelist have some financial or personal relationship with the tata sons owned tcs. well, i wonder if your appeal in the delhi high court will do any good. The domain is registered at enom and they hardly take note of the court orders outside us. Note that the origin of the reseller you registered the domain name with does not make any difference. that is why i always request indian clients to register from the registrars based in india. please consult your lawyers and file the suit in us courts. Its expensive i know, but its necessary. Secondly, you can also request the us department of justice to evaluate/reconsider the decision. i operate the biggest domain name consultancy service in india and if you want to discuss anything, please email me at the email address provided.
Anirban on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:33
How can tata get into something so petty? we all are proud of tata's contribution to the country and we can tell the difference between tata sons and http://www.Oktatabyebye.Com. So the legal guys at tata should take a chill pill and concentrate their energies to something fruitful.
Nirmal Mathew on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:20
I don't think anyone can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata sons or their businesses as oktatabyebye have made a mark and a name for themselves. And it might be that tata sons wants to cash in on this popularity and loyalty that oktatabyebye.Com have garnered.
Subash Sawant on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:19
A hue and cry despite using another’s intellectual property is uncalled for. ip owners both corporates and individuals spend a lot of time and money on building brand names. Thus, they need to be respected a lot more than they are, especially in india. Why not spend your time and creative energies on a new name?
Jitendra on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:08
I don't think anyone can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata sons or their businesses
Avinash Malpure on 31 Aug 2009 at 13:01
would make my trip limited be okay with another registering a www.Mademytrip.Com? focussing on promoting their business rather than frivilous litigation would do the start-up a lot of good.
Rohit Anand on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:55
Oktatabyebye and tata and not the same, i do not see any confusion. Tomorrow they might file a case that no indian can use the word ta ta to say bye or may be they start charging royalty for every time someone uses of the words ta ta.
Rohit Anand on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:54
Oktatabyebye and tata and not the same, i do not see any confusion. Tomorrow they might file a case that no indian can use the word ta ta to say bye or may they start charging royalty for every time someone uses of the words ta ta.
Bharat Vadhera on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:47
Tata has no right against the word tata and bye bye as here tata denotes..Greetings not surname
Vishal on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:47
Actually do u realize that tatas just made u famous !
Ramkumar on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:44
It is ridiculous to think that anybody can confuse oktatabyebye.Com with tata businesses.
Vishal on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:33
Tatas are being absurd , "tata" is just another word for see you later.
Vikrant Motiwale on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:30
It is rediculuous to have these type of things from great comany like tata. I strongly appose their claim and vote in favour to ok ta ta by by. vikrant
Ameya Thatte on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:28
The argument is double pronged, no one can really stake claim to such a domain name. Neither is this a case of 'who came their first'. Ip regulations suggest 'familiarity' of the name should not pose to hamper at the outset, the goodwill of individual or individuals, and of companies or group of companies. All in all it sounds a good initiative to garner public opinion for a semblance of survival but the courts are right here. No sharp criticism either way from me but still, like they say "whats in a name?"
Mihir Godbole on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:22
Well i was in norway recently and i was asked by a local friend their if this was a tata group company. With the bigspending that tata is doing worldwide, i see where they are coming from. They do not want ambiguous or misconstrued representation for themselves. I would support the tatas on this one for sure.
Gurjar Shantanu on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:17
Sir, with all this legal opinion that i read in comments on this page, i wonder if lawyers are writing on this board. Please, legal advice apart, i feel that the empathy that people share is overwhelming enough to let needless legal outpouring flood in. I am a regular on this site and also know how murky the whole legal tangles ensue. I'll say this, if i'm notified the new address by the domain holders i'll still login.
Atul Biniwale on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:13
Give it up. No one's hurt. New names that i see being suggested are not completely useless. You would be good to assume a new identity and revamp completely. Cheers
Aditya P on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:09
I'm reading all this hullabaloo created over a domain name that no one can rightfully stake claim to. Very objectively a ta ta appearing in the oktatabyebye cannot be termed as both parties prerogative. As a neutral third party i would still say that to the uninitiated it could be misconstrued for a tata group website. As for the current owners, if your recall is not simply based on the name but mostly on what the website represents, then i'd say save yourself the trouble and move on. After running a enterprise and successfully so as part of a transcontinental group, i see no shame in an upheaval. Domain name included.
Vikram on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:03
This is completely insane
Vini Agrawal on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:02
This is ridiculous, this is phrase is the most common on any commercial trucks regardless of weather it is by the company tata or not... This souldnt have anything to do with the company tata... And as mentioned the word is commonly used by many people across the world as a good bye gesture so are they gonna go and sue all those people..
Sudhir on 31 Aug 2009 at 12:00
This is ridiculous..
Harshal on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:56
We would like the guy from wipo who made that decision to declare his assets like supreme court judges are asked for. Things are very evident here the way it works in india.
Vinit Kumar Singh on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:52
Oktatabyebye.Com is simply means for well wishes who are going to travel. As tata sons filed case against the domain but there is no such violation of such rules which harm any brand name. Tata is a part of the whole domain not simply tata and the meaning of the word included in the domain is completely different. i will have a watch over this and vote in favour of mmt. thanks
Namrata on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:36
U are in the right.. All the best!
Megha on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:32
This is the height !!!! i guess tata's need a break from their hectic life schedule. I support okttbb and its team completely on this issue.
Altaf on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:28
This is ridiculous. Tata is among the first words that we learn as a kid in our families. An easy way to say good bye. Doesn't the tata group of companies have nothing better to do than file lawsuits against active travel portals such as yours. Today it is you. Tomorrow it will be anyone uttering the word. This is rather ludicrous!
Royson Jacob on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:27
Most hilarious wipo verdict that i have ever read. probably, pawan duggal got bowled over by the brand name tata. i guess it's time for wipo to say tata to pawan.
Naresh on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:20
So tatas cannot claim the right to something that they did not create or own. If they have a problem, they should change their brand names. Nobody with common sense would think that the tatas have a case, as there is no infringement of proprietary ip here. In fact the tatas are infringing upon common intellectual property – the language that people speak. Tata’s claim is only technical and is far from truth and reality.
Sugandha Garg on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:19
I dont think anyone can confuse the web-sites.
Naresh on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:19
All those people who support the tatas in this are completely devoid of common sense. They do not understand the context in which the word tata has been used in ok-ta-ta-bye-bye. I respect the tata group for a lot of good things that they have done. But that does not mean i will support them in their wrongdoings. No person in his/her right senses would do that. This claim by tatas is an infringement of one's freedom of expression. Even if some people think this case is too trivial, etc, it is still necessary to fight this case to give a good fight to a muscle wielding corporation employing unfair and unjustified means to gain what does not belong to it. and one more thing, guys pls don’t compare generic usage of ta-ta with that of google. Google is a term that was brought into existence by the google corp. Ta ta is a term which has been used in india and elsewhere to say good bye even b4 tatas started doing business. So tatas cannot claim the right to something that they did not create or own. If they have a problem, they should change their brand names. Nobody with common sense would think that the tatas have a case, as there is no infringement of proprietary ip here. In fact the tatas are infringing upon common intellectual property – the language that people speak. Tata’s claim is only technical and is far from truth and reality.
Shishir Gupta on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:16
I am not able to write my whole message, please provide me an email id where i can send you the email. Or please email me at shishirmba [at] gmail.Com
Anil Srivatsa on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:13
Soon we will have no language to use if all words are going to be protected by trademark and copyright. This phrase has been used in the indian context for generations and no world body unfamiliar with this has the right to assign rights without getting to the bottom of this. Take it to the press and let's fight this. Tata should be ashamed
Shishir Gupta on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:13
(ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or ## oktatabyebye does not limit tata group from their webpresence for any business. (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or ## oktatabyebye does not disrupt the business of tata group. Also tata group is not the direct competitor of oktatabyebye (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location. ## oktatabyebye does not create any confusion of association. Everybody knows that it is associated with makemytrip and not with tata group. we are the users. We have been using oktatabyebye since wrong. Lakhs of people cannot be wrong. Ask us. I have no commercial interest in oktatabyebye but just to protect the right and oppose wrong i wish to fight along with oktatabyebye.
Shishir Gupta on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:12
Primarily there are four points that show the clear picture of domain used in bad faith against any brand. I will try to mention why oktatabyebye does not relate to tata in that context: (i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or ## the owners of oktatabyebye does not have the motive of selling or renting the domain. They are using the domain for a legitimate business which is related to travel and does not claim any association with tata. (ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or ## oktatabyebye does not limit tata group from their webpresence for any business. (iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or ## oktatabyebye does not disrupt the business of tata group. Also tata group is not the direct competitor of oktatabyebye (iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, internet users to
Hanna D on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:10
Appears to be a clear case of making a mountain out of a...The similarity should not be a cause of concern unless....And has caused some injury to tatas
Shishir Gupta on 31 Aug 2009 at 11:09
My message is more than 1500 characters so i will post it in 4 parts: if tata sons can find oktatabyebye as a part of tata brand image, then tata can also file a suit for batatawada. There is a company called contata, so tata can file a suit for it also. This is merely a confusion. Tata is a large group and should decide properly before making such bizzare claims. These claims hamper the global image of such a trusted company like tata. I am strongly against the decision of tata. the domain name industry is decentralized and atomic in that anyone from anywhere in the world can register a domain name, keep the ownershp name and address private, and host it from a country where the u.S. And european legal systems don't apply. Thus, legal action will only drive domain owners further underground. On the other hand oktatabyebye is legitimately into the business and is doing fine with it. I have never seen them relating to tata in any way. Also the general internet user never associate oktatabyebye with tata group at all.
Shelja Tondon on 31 Aug 2009 at 10:59
Ok tata is written behind a majotity of trucks, autos in india...Irreespctive of whether they are manufatcured by tata sons or some one else..Ta ta is a synonym for good bye , therefore, is a creative choice of the domain holder. Corporates should refrain from infringing creative rights of normal citizens.
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